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Unfortunately religious guilt often gets replaced by secular neo Malthusian doomsday ideology. That might not be your experience but it seems to be common. It plugs into the same port: "forgive us nature for we have sinned. we have overshot our ecological carrying capacity."Another thing about secularism that bothers me (and I am not religious) is the strong negative association with birth rates. Look up the statistics. The more rational your worldview is the less you reproduce, to the point that most very secular nations are in demographic decline. Darwin is clearly on the side of fanaticism and superstition, in that if there is any genetic basis to these traits we are strongly selecting for them. Even if there is no genetic basis, beliefs propagate most strongly from parent to child so we are certainly culturally selecting for fanatical religious ideologies in the long term. A higher proportion of tomorrow children will be the product of today fundamentalists. I suspect this is why severe religious ideologies are historically so powerful. Seems like when you take away myth, you take away teleological action. Actions belong to the realm of narrative storytelling Huarache Nike White Women's

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to begin. Just because you popping out child after child doesn mean those children are likely to survive, prosper and reproduce. That is traditionally why people have felt the need to have lots of kids: you didn know how many of them would live long enough to have kids of their own. It is only very recently that modern medicine has significantly decreased child mortality and increased lifespans. To anyone who is knowledgeable about any of these topics, this is just sheer, unadulterated nonsense.

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I not convinced that lack of religion and pessimism are correlated at all. In my experience, religious people are as likely to be pessimistic as non religious people. Religious people have more kids primarily because most organized religions frown upon birth control. It has nothing to do with hope or optimism and everything to do with the fact that they are having sex just as often as non religious folks but are much more likely to conceive. Another reason is that non religious people tend to be more independent in their thinking and they question and resist social pressures and even economic incentives to have kids. I don even know where Nike Air Huarache Desert Camo

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that humanity faces difficult challenges, but those who have secular worldviews seem to easily Huarache Ultra Br default to hopelessness the minute their logical analysis turns up a probability of success that seems less than 50 Perhaps there something adaptive about the craziness of faith. it causes us to actually try in the face of seemingly insurmountable adversity.

Religious people have kids because of a commandment to "multiply and replenish the earth". This is indeed a problem for anyone who wants to promote secular policies in a democracy, if they quickly find themselves outnumbered in a few generations (assuming that "conversion" to secular politics happens at a lower rate than the non secular birth rate). That is how I read the parent comment.

not fact. This is as true in the secular realm as in the religious progress is a myth, not a fact. In the extreme it takes on a quasi religious tone in the form of "the Singularity" and similar ideas. It certainly true Huaraches All White Womens

Exactly. Liberal types try to win by being right. Right wingers win by. Umm. Winning. I was not arguing that the inverse correlation between secularism and birth rates is a good thing. .

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